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This post was updated 2014-08, to better reflect what the thread is now used for.
-Binglo

it searches for parts so loli will bring up lolita and lolicon because it is part of both words. Likewise Eva would get all of the Evangelion tagged stuff because it has eva in it.

The tag full color is the proper one as the full ensures that both spellings of colour will be hit.

what?
full = 804 hits
color = 895 hits
colour = 197 hits
full color = 618 hits
full colour = 183 hits
fullcolor = 129 hits
fullcolour = 6 hits

personally, i think its best for there to be multiple tagging's, even if they seem pointless
the search results show this

i do agree that having something like sex as a tag is stupid
rather then having that, it would be better to have non-h or the like on those that dont have any (same with japanese and doujin)
bath however, even tho it would be a small fetish or even if its just a small part of the work in question, its best to tag it as such anyways
its the same as with swimsuit, mizugi, schoolgirl, ect
even loli (loli, lolicon, lolikon, rori, rorikon, ect, ect) should have multiple taggings for the fact that they're all different spellings (even tho they mean the same)

what?
full = 804 hits
color = 895 hits
colour = 197 hits
full color = 618 hits
full colour = 183 hits
fullcolor = 129 hits
fullcolour = 6 hits

personally, i think its best for there to be multiple tagging's, even if they seem pointless
the search results show this

i do agree that having something like sex as a tag is stupid
rather then having that, it would be better to have non-h or the like on those that dont have any (same with japanese and doujin)
bath however, even tho it would be a small fetish or even if its just a small part of the work in question, its best to tag it as such anyways
its the same as with swimsuit, mizugi, schoolgirl, ect
even loli (loli, lolicon, lolikon, rori, rorikon, ect, ect) should have multiple taggings for the fact that they're all different spellings (even tho they mean the same)

loli is unnessicary though if there's a tag with loli in it, i.e. lolicon because searching for loli will bring up lolicon unless you search for exact terms.

what?
full = 804 hits
color = 895 hits
colour = 197 hits
full color = 618 hits
full colour = 183 hits
fullcolor = 129 hits
fullcolour = 6 hits

personally, i think its best for there to be multiple tagging's, even if they seem pointless
the search results show this

i do agree that having something like sex as a tag is stupid
rather then having that, it would be better to have non-h or the like on those that dont have any (same with japanese and doujin)
bath however, even tho it would be a small fetish or even if its just a small part of the work in question, its best to tag it as such anyways
its the same as with swimsuit, mizugi, schoolgirl, ect
even loli (loli, lolicon, lolikon, rori, rorikon, ect, ect) should have multiple taggings for the fact that they're all different spellings (even tho they mean the same)

Non-h is a great tag, it tells you some good information. It's useful and that's the point.

There is a big difference between covering different spellings and being overly redundant. Personally I consider putting 6 different tags for the same thing to not be needed. One or two are good but beyond that they lose their usefulness. And again, do we need to mention colour on any doujin that has a couple of colour pages? If we do it makes the full colour ones very hard to find thus making the colour tag useless.

The loli/rori thing doesn't really work, just how many people really would go by the japanese phonetic pronunciation on a primarily english speaking site?

Swim Suit, Schoolgirl, maid, those are all common fetishes whereas something like bath isn't very common and is actually quite vague as it could cover bathtubs, showers, bath houses, and hot springs.

This would actually be a good way to get heads together and figure out exactly what good tags are. We could get rid of some of the grey areas like should we use breasts or tits?

i dont see where there really is a need to do anything about the tagging tho
i see what your saying, but still, if it pertains to the content of the work, then it should be allowed regardless if it seems redundant

as long as they aren't being tagged something that has nothing to do with the actual work, then why care about it?
like adding "its good" (seen a few like this)

i'd rather have more tags on my galleries than whats considered necessary by many and make them able to be found with a multitude of keywords instead of being picky with the tagging and leaving something out that might've been used by someone

edit:
quick example why multiple tags are good

loli = 1333
swimsuit = 125
bath = 21

loli swimsuit = 30
loli bath = 1

even if one search term leads to what seems to be an over abundance of results, if you use 2 terms it'll narrow it down considerably
this is the reason why multiple terms (even bath) are needed
it isn't about a single term, its how multiple terms are used together to find you what you want

This post has been edited by therightstufwatcher: Mar 5 2008, 07:48

Well, I tend to think that we ought to tag things with any tags that will help with searching. I'm fairly sure that Tenboro has said that only the first few (3? 5?) tags you add count toward getting you on the toplists, so it would be fairly useless to go adding a bunch just to get on the lists.

I do tag Japanese doujin as 'japanese', and English ones as 'english' and, if appropriate, 'translated'. I tag rewrites with 'rewrite'. I tag for every character that appears, if I can, as well as any variations on the series name I think might be useful. I tag with anything else that seems useful, too, because I'd like to be able to find any doujin again based on any characteristic I happen to recall. Unless we get news that over-tagging is slowing the database server to a halt, I don't think that there is actually any harm in this. Vote down bad tags, to be sure, but I know of no reason to refrain from adding good tags.

And, incidentally, we do have the ability to search by the exact tag added, rather than just an AND search on the stuff we type. Contrast:

http://ehentaihip.com/tag/full+color

with

http://ehentaihip.com/tag/color+full

Therefore I think that even very specific tags that may be substrings of other tags can be useful (like 'suit' vs. 'swimsuit', for a particularly bad random example).

In short, I think that tagging things however we feel is probably for the best, given that we can vote off truly bad tags. It just makes searching more valuable.

Seems that it's the consensus, I guess I'm completely wrong and I have a lot more tagging to do to ensure nothing is missed when somebody searches.

It's not really an issue, it'll only credit anyone for a maximum of five tags per gallery either way. If you disagree with a tag, just vote against it.

Is there even a significant benefit for tagging? I don't mean for the EH community as a whole, but for the individual that is tagging the gallery. Eliminating the benefit for tagging would likely get rid of all the junky and excessive tags for sure and would likely only rid of a few useful tags.

I guess you could say that is really doesn't hurt to have more tags even if they are redundant since it'll generate more hits, but if too many galleries get too many tags then it can ruin the point of the search engine anyways by not giving a concise range of results.

Is there even a significant benefit for tagging? I don't mean for the EH community as a whole, but for the individual that is tagging the gallery. Eliminating the benefit for tagging would likely get rid of all the junky and excessive tags for sure and would likely only rid of a few useful tags.

I guess you could say that is really doesn't hurt to have more tags even if they are redundant since it'll generate more hits, but if too many galleries get too many tags then it can ruin the point of the search engine anyways by not giving a concise range of results.

There's the toplist, and I have no intentions of removing that. Thing is, there needs to be *some* incentive to go around tagging stuff, or most people won't bother.

As for redundant/misleading tags, just vote against them if you see them.

Out of curiousity does the voting down have a 5 limit per gallery too or is it just addind new tags?

It credits you for up to five tags per gallery. It doesn't care if it's a new tag, or if you vote an old one up or down.

I've been finding lately that there have been some people abusing the tagging system and my only guess as to why is to get on the toplist. [...] I reached the top of that list with out being abusive for the most part and that is why I'm making this topic.

Somehow I get the urge to justify myself. Of course I want to get on te toplist! Why would I not? But I never abused the system.

As for 'bath', it is something I'm looking for and skimming through this topic I'm not alone. It is not up to you to decide what people generally look for and what not.
I do tag some doujins with 'forced sex', though. Guilty. But it's still only one tag and I don't benefit from it in any way instead of only using 'forced'.

A high tag count had nothing to do with, I had over 700 one day because I was bored.

So fine, it's well established that I was absolutely wrong, from now on I will tag everything I see so that there is zero chance that anyone will be left out. If I see a mouse in the corner of a panel I will tag it as it's bound to get somebody off.

On the subject of searching for color vs colour and fullcolor vs colour etc. Tenboro could probably fix this by throwing a lot of enhancement into the search function, although it would be more work than it's worth since the database generally turns up fairly quickly what you are looking for.

On a side note, I thought you meant graffiti by the topic title.

Japanese is an acceptable tag for real porn galleries,as it may be identifying the nationality of the model. But I know what you mean about the unnecessary redundancy. If anything, all manga and doujinshi should be assumed by default to be in Japanese, and then marked otherwise if its not, like with the tags "english", "translated", and the such if its in english, or "non-j" or something like this if its not Japanese at all.

But hey the tagging system is a learning experience, there is bound to be rough points in its development.

also: I am a proponent of multiple color/colour tags. I tag color and colour if there is a good number of color pages, and then add full ONLY if every content page is color.

This is important to me because I live for full color doujinshi.

Tenboro, can users use wildcard for searching? Like search col* and get results for all of color, colour, colored, coloreds, and everything else?

//edit
I guess someone could just try and find out
//edit
nope, it does not.

This post has been edited by KatzOhki: Mar 7 2008, 00:42

You can leave out the wildcard, and it'll return those anyway.

Well now we know! As long as we're discussing abuse of the tagging system, I ran across this:

a doujinshi with characters based off the game Darkstalkers and Vampire Saviour, translated by Sayo. Tag data copied from http://ehentaihip.com/g/12186/e3a17f87035e...eb7b3169/5-m-y/ .

I don't know what to think of that :/