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post Apr 10 2020, 09:34
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We have now switched over to use the (relatively) new bech32 addresses for Bitcoin by default as well. As usual, any payments to older addresses generated within the last year or so will still be credited.

As some exchanges, wallets and ATMs may not support this address type yet, there is an option to switch back to legacy (P2SH-style) addresses, which will remain for some time. Note that if you click this, there is no automatic way to switch back to bech32, so you would have to PM me to do so.

While I wasn't planning on switching over until support for the new address type was more or less universal, there have been some instances of people sending BCH to BTC addresses despite the highly visible warning, which will no longer be possible.
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post Apr 10 2020, 09:49
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I take this opportunity to always thank you for your work Tenboro

Long live e-hentai.org
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post Apr 10 2020, 16:01
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 10 2020, 09:34) *
there have been some instances of people sending BCH to BTC addresses despite the highly visible warning

Yesterday: Accidentally brought bch to the btc wallet
Today: Quickboro mode activated.
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post Apr 10 2020, 21:55
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QUOTE(mayriad @ Apr 10 2020, 16:01) *

Today: Quickboro mode activated.


Well, I happened to have set up new bitcoin nodes a couple of days ago because of future glibc compatibility issues with the old-ish OS on the old nodes, and the EH codebase has supported bech32 for years, so most of the work was done already. I wasn't planning on switching over to the new nodes and new address format until Core 0.20 is released around June, since that one will also default to using it, but since it happened again (for like the third or fourth time) and the new nodes were already there, I decided to just add the option to switch to the old format instead of waiting for that release and/or 100% compatibility.
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post Apr 13 2020, 23:13
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Just for completeness of info :

I suppose people who still have got some satoshi in their old wallet won't have to do nothing about them because of this, even when old P2SH address will not be supported anymore ?
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post Apr 14 2020, 07:57
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 13 2020, 23:13) *

Just for completeness of info :

I suppose people who still have got some satoshi in their old wallet won't have to do nothing about them because of this, even when old P2SH address will not be supported anymore ?


You don't have actual BTC on your e-h wallet. What you see is just the amount that has come in through your account, and you can choose what to do with that value: use the 'donate' function for stars, or use the 'adopt a server' function for hath income. But you can't get your BTC back, can't forward it - it's not actually there.
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post Apr 14 2020, 10:07
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 13 2020, 23:13) *

I suppose people who still have got some satoshi in their old wallet won't have to do nothing about them because of this, even when old P2SH address will not be supported anymore ?


Correct, you would never "lose" anything from your balance just because the wallet holding the address it was sent to is retired. Though we'll most likely maintain the P2SH fallback for as long as the Core wallet backend does; since you can easily generate P2SH and bech32 addresses in the same wallet, there is no maintenance overhead for keeping it. You'd just have to click the link again every time we cycle wallets.
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post Apr 14 2020, 15:25
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 14 2020, 09:07) *

Correct, you would never "lose" anything from your balance just because the wallet holding the address it was sent to is retired. Though we'll most likely maintain the P2SH fallback for as long as the Core wallet backend does; since you can easily generate P2SH and bech32 addresses in the same wallet, there is no maintenance overhead for keeping it. You'd just have to click the link again every time we cycle wallets.


Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to be certain of (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 14 2020, 06:57) *

You don't have actual BTC on your e-h wallet. What you see is just the amount that has come in through your account, and you can choose what to do with that value: use the 'donate' function for stars, or use the 'adopt a server' function for hath income. But you can't get your BTC back, can't forward it - it's not actually there.


Technically incorrect, and it wasn't my question anyway.

You see, when someone creates a new account in EH, the site's system (let's say "Tenboro's servers system" or TSS for brevity) also creates a new wallet, complete of its private key to operate on it; these are permanently assigned to the account just created (DB table or some such other referring system).

The wallet does exist, it's just that it's not under your control; rather, TSS controls it on your behalf, and EH interface gives you only those commands you have in the "donation" page.

Such commands in the "donation" page, when sent to the web server on TSS, get translated in commands to the wallet associated with your account (which you can surely think of as "your wallet", though in a real sense they are all Tenboro's wallets, since he has control of their private keys).

And the sums visible in them wallets, are really in them, in the sense that the blockchain has those coins locked to that wallet in the transactions' ledger; i.e., you need to have knowledge of that wallet private key, to be able to move them somewhere else.

In other words, that wallet is real; it apperas as a somewhat virtual "one-way" wallet to you, but that is just the effect of the site's interface. On the TSS it is a real wallet, two-way full functions. It must be so, otherwise the whole system wouldn't work.

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post Apr 14 2020, 22:22
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 14 2020, 15:25) *
Such commands in the "donation" page, when sent to the web server on TSS, get translated in commands to the wallet associated with your account (which you can surely think of as "your wallet", though in a real sense they are all Tenboro's wallets, since he has control of their private keys).


What he means is that the BTC/BCH balances shown on the site are just the sum of transactions you've sent to the wallet addresses created for your account minus what you have spent, and that it doesn't represent "actual" BTC/BCH still remaining in UTXOs corresponding to those wallet addresses. Funds are frequently emptied to a cold wallet, so those UTXOs usually don't stay around for very long.
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post Apr 14 2020, 22:32
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 14 2020, 21:22) *

What he means is that the BTC/BCH balances shown on the site are just the sum of transactions you've sent to the wallet addresses created for your account minus what you have spent, and that it doesn't represent "actual" BTC/BCH still remaining in UTXOs corresponding to those wallet addresses. Funds are frequently emptied to a cold wallet, so those UTXOs usually don't stay around for very long.


Ah, yes. Makes sense. Easier to manage, you just have to keep in DB the current balance for each account, and get rid of all old wallet/key pairs. The page does tell that a new wallet is created each time for new transactions for the same account, and this is why (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Apr 22 2020, 14:09
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Good evening. I noticed the sentence "As usual, any payments to older addresses generated within the last year or so will still be credited.", does it mean the donator privilege is not permanent? In fact I intent to donate some. It's a good deal to help mantaining the site and gain some privileges meanwhile. But maybe it's little expensive if donator privilege will be cleared up periodically(2 years?). Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

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post Apr 22 2020, 20:27
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QUOTE(冰羽の殇 @ Apr 22 2020, 14:09) *
does it mean the donator privilege is not permanent?

It IS permanent.
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post Apr 22 2020, 20:44
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QUOTE(冰羽の殇 @ Apr 22 2020, 14:09) *

Good evening. I noticed the sentence "As usual, any payments to older addresses generated within the last year or so will still be credited.", does it mean the donator privilege is not permanent? In fact I intent to donate some. It's a good deal to help mantaining the site and gain some privileges meanwhile. But maybe it's little expensive if donator privilege will be cleared up periodically(2 years?). Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .


Old addresses are only monitored for some time for new transactions (about a year), but everything you sent to them will remain permanently credited to your account.
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post Apr 23 2020, 08:28
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 23 2020, 02:44) *

Old addresses are only monitored for some time for new transactions (about a year), but everything you sent to them will remain permanently credited to your account.


I see. Thank you for your reply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .
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