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post Jun 20 2012, 03:00
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Iv'e been seeing people accepting my bounties for a while now and naturally never doing anything with it. I suppose the best option would be up the bounty rank to weed them out and make them PM you if they're serious in doing it.... which would probably have been helpful for me(!).

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post Jun 20 2012, 03:25
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So I guess I don't have a translator after all. Just leeches who can't contribute a few credits. I bet they came from that forum I asked for help on. I think I'll just shrug them off by raising the bounty rank.

And that didn't work. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Jul 13 2012, 18:27
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Be careful with bounties.

Here's a story of a recent bounty heist.

My PM to Ten explains most of here:

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Ten, I am assuming you force-accepted this bounty http://ehentaihip.com/bounty.php?bid=5340 due to the poster inactivity? If you had nothing to do with it, just say so and ignore the rest of this PM.

But if you did, I'd like you to reverse this. The bounty claimer did not fullfill it, the archive is the exact copy of http://ehentaihip.com/g/474393/8d7749f037/ and has nothing to do with the dojin requested

As one of many users who supported this bounty, I think we would very much prefer for it to be still open.


Ten however noted that the bounty had an error in the original description, and listed two potenial mugi galleries. Thus he ruled that the bounty could have been accepted with the wrong gallery (already present in our galleries).

And so, a troll waked away with 400K Credits + 300 Hath. I didn't lose much, and the original poster is inactive, apparently not giving a damn too, but there are some important lessons here to be learned. Sigh.
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post Jul 13 2012, 20:07
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Despite the contradictions of the bounty description, it still clearly states that a PM should be sent prior to accepting the bounty. Had he done so he would have known exactly what the bounty poster had wanted even if the description was off. It seems like a clear case of taking advantage of an ambiguous bounty in hopes of netting a large gain, which he had successfully done.

Long story short, a bounty reversal seems obvious here, and rightly so.
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post Jul 13 2012, 22:44
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Red neglects to mention that the poster did not dispute the bounty or answer the PM for more than a month. And the description linked to the doujinshi he submitted. So no, it's far from an obvious reversal.
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post Jul 13 2012, 23:00
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That was an observation based on the given information, but now that you put it that way...

Hell, if the bounty poster doesn't care then why should I. Welps, moving on then.
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post Jul 15 2012, 12:16
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I did say the bounty poster was inactive. But I, as one of the bounty contributors, did dispute it, but that was apparently not enough.

I still think it is clear the bounty was not fulfilled, and should go to the guy who uploaded this http://ehentaihip.com/g/508405/c8966476b7/ just today
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post Jul 15 2012, 14:21
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Firstly, if you wanted to dispute, you should have posted the bounty yourself. If anyone who made a massive 500C contribution to a bounty could dispute it, the system would have to be retardedly intricate.

Secondly, you PMed me a week after the fact. I don't reverse bounty accepts, especially not that that late, and especially especially not when it was never properly disputed, and especially especially especially not when the description is ambiguous.

The bounty poster screwed up twice, first by putting the wrong link in the description and then by not bothering to dispute it. Accept it and move on.
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post Jul 17 2012, 15:26
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That's fine, as long we all know where we stand. Let this serve as a lesson that laziness in writing a bounty can bite one in the ass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jun 13 2013, 04:30
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But sometimes even the bounty hunter fulfilled all the requirements, the Poster also dispute it. those spent their time and energy translating didnt receive any reward at all, even there are minor errors. (they should get something in return) - kinda made this bounty system a flaw....
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post Jun 21 2013, 06:34
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Has anyone had the problem of not being able to contact the original bounty poster? I've sent some messages already with the translation done, but I haven't got any replies back. I always check with the poster to make sure everything's ok before I claim the bounty.

Strange thing is that he's online pretty regularly and I've done many bounties from him before. I would like to see this bounty finished and then edited, especially since it's one of the top translation bounties. For reference, it's the "Nikuyokugami Gyoushin - Translation Bounty" one.
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post Jun 21 2013, 07:02
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I have a question of my own: Is there any bad etiquette in using a translation that's basically lying there in the open. For Instance, I have a bounty for a Non-H doujin, but's it's been posted probably a while ago on Danbooru. Would it be wrong to take it and edit it into the doujin all proper like?
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post Jun 21 2013, 07:08
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QUOTE(Super Shanko @ Jun 20 2013, 22:02) *

I have a question of my own: Is there any bad etiquette in using a translation that's basically lying there in the open. For Instance, I have a bounty for a Non-H doujin, but's it's been posted probably a while ago on Danbooru. Would it be wrong to take it and edit it into the doujin all proper like?

If you credit the original translator (that's assuming you know who that is), I don't see what the problem is unless they happened to post that they don't want the translation used for other purposes.
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post Jun 21 2013, 08:12
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QUOTE(qaqtusman @ Jun 21 2013, 01:34) *

Has anyone had the problem of not being able to contact the original bounty poster? I've sent some messages already with the translation done, but I haven't got any replies back. I always check with the poster to make sure everything's ok before I claim the bounty.

Strange thing is that he's online pretty regularly and I've done many bounties from him before. I would like to see this bounty finished and then edited, especially since it's one of the top translation bounties. For reference, it's the "Nikuyokugami Gyoushin - Translation Bounty" one.

Have you tried sending him a moogle mail?
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post Jun 21 2013, 12:54
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But sometimes even the bounty hunter fulfilled all the requirements, the Poster also dispute it. those spent their time and energy translating didnt receive any reward at all, even there are minor errors. (they should get something in return) - kinda made this bounty system a flaw....

Before you made a deal with the bounty poster , firstly you have to ask him whether he can give a consolation bounty or not , consolation bounty reward is always a good thing to increase your experience. If in fact the bounty poster had promised you and he still didn't give the reward , errrr i would say , you should work on bounty not because of the reward, but because the genre is in your taste. so with or without reward , you will enjoy and fapping through the bounty hunting xD.

But let me tell you this, i earn 1 million GP for each gallery release i made, so you don't have to work on bounty if you don't need credits and hath within a short time. i know 1 million GP for each gallery release is still a very small number compared to the top famous uploader's income, but it's enough to download Gigs of contents.

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post Jun 22 2013, 01:40
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QUOTE(Cyberdemon @ Jun 21 2013, 08:12) *

Have you tried sending him a moogle mail?


Tried that. He's still not responding to my messages. I've had one other case like this where the person didn't receive any of my messages because their inbox was full.
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post Jun 22 2013, 07:48
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QUOTE(qaqtusman @ Jun 21 2013, 20:40) *

Tried that. He's still not responding to my messages. I've had one other case like this where the person didn't receive any of my messages because their inbox was full.



Since he didn't cancel the bounty, it's most likely he's still interested in the translation, so I suggest claim the bounty. Put a link to your translation on the description so a mod can check your work in case the poster doesn't accept (or reject) your claim in seven days.
If there's a problem and for whatever reason he can't contact you, I guess you can talk it out with him later since you worked together already.
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post Sep 7 2013, 18:51
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I got problem with my bounty http://ehentaihip.com/bounty.php?bid=8079

bfrost accepted earlier but stev123 claimed it first without any notice.
What I got sample of bfrost's work, it look much better compared to stev123's work.

Can I decline that claim and offer partial reward as translation is still OK?
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post Sep 7 2013, 21:49
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While I strongly dislike people sniping bounties, I don't think you should decline stev123's claim for two reasons:
- stev123 did complete your bounty: they fulfilled all the conditions, and you didn't stipulate that the bounty was reserved for someone that was already working on it (some bounty posters do that in order to avoid sniping from someone), so they could probably have Tenboro rule out your rejecting their claim;
- declining their claim would make their bounty rank drop, which wouldn't be really nice to them, since they did complete the bounty.

I can see two options if bfrost still wants to work on the bounty (if they don't, you can just send them a bit of money for the work they did):
- discuss with stev123 during the week you have to debate their claim: ask them to withdraw their claim and give them some compensation for their work so that bfrost can claim the bounty when they finish it (remember to change the bounty to say it's reserved for bfrost, so this doesn't happen twice);
- if stev123 doesn't want to withdraw their claim, I think you'll have to give them the bounty, and maybe create another bounty for bfrost...
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post Sep 7 2013, 23:16
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QUOTE(KirbyDances @ Sep 7 2013, 22:49) *

While I strongly dislike people sniping bounties, I don't think you should decline stev123's claim for two reasons:
- stev123 did complete your bounty: they fulfilled all the conditions, and you didn't stipulate that the bounty was reserved for someone that was already working on it (some bounty posters do that in order to avoid sniping from someone), so they could probably have Tenboro rule out your rejecting their claim;
- declining their claim would make their bounty rank drop, which wouldn't be really nice to them, since they did complete the bounty.

I can see two options if bfrost still wants to work on the bounty (if they don't, you can just send them a bit of money for the work they did):
- discuss with stev123 during the week you have to debate their claim: ask them to withdraw their claim and give them some compensation for their work so that bfrost can claim the bounty when they finish it (remember to change the bounty to say it's reserved for bfrost, so this doesn't happen twice);
- if stev123 doesn't want to withdraw their claim, I think you'll have to give them the bounty, and maybe create another bounty for bfrost...


Thanks for help! I got enough haths so paying compensation isn't problem for me.

I will remember to add that reserved-text on next bounty
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