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post Jan 30 2012, 09:00
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FourThirteen



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UPDATE:
I would like to clarify, this thread was not created in reply to a specific person. That would be immature. I'm attempting to address a long-standing concern that I believe is shared by several of my fellow members, and I am hoping we can see less animosity both toward and from such posters in the future.

From the Board Rules:
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Useless Posts - Do not post messages in the forum that contribute nothing to the conversation. It's considered to be highly annoying to do so, so unless you have something to say, don't.

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Another update:
The most popular poll choice no longer makes sense. Sad, but I was tired of people scrolling right past my posts like they don't even exist.
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Update the 3rd:
I wrote a follow-up: read me.
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The thing that a lot of people don't seem to understand is, when you create a thread, regardless of its purpose, if the thread didn't need to be made, a lot of people will be pissed off by the mere existence of it. The issue isn't so much your specific action, but rather the impact of them seeing it and thinking, "dammit, not this crap again." The last straw was the one that broke the camel's back. Yours is just further digging a heel into the wound.

So, I'm writing this in hopes of defusing a few time-bombs.

Right off the bat, I have to say this:
Keep a sense of humor and a cool head. Trust me, being able to respond calmly and constructively to criticism, as well as casually shrug off or even laugh at an insult, will greatly endear you to a lot of people. You're among prickly, adult company here; it's no place to be thin-skinned, and definitely no place to take yourself seriously.

Typical reasons why your thread didn't need to exist:
- you posted it in the wrong section
- a very similar thread already exists making yours superfluous
- the topic is unclear, is flame-baiting, is truly pointless from the start, or just generally not a topic that warrants discussion of any kind

So, users are flaming you, being mean and derailing your thread? Well, of course they are. They're exhausted from the sheer volume of obnoxious peons who slither across these boards spamming incessantly, and they don't have the patience to be nice to you and respect you, even if you deserve respect. Hell, most of them are too jaded to even make such an effort anymore. They can't be respectful to you, because in context, you don't look like an innocent poster with legitimate concerns or a topic to discuss, you just look like one more part of the problem; another random person who spams pointless comments to increase their post count and be the center of attention.

What can you do? For starters, you can avoid making new threads unless absolutely necessary. If you're a lurker or recruit, you probably shouldn't be making new threads at all unless it's in Site Discussion or Requests. People get upset when you make new threads that didn't need to be there, pushing other decent threads off the front page into oblivion.

Craig Ferguson proposed a very good system for filtering our thoughts, and I believe it's useful here. Before making new threads, ask yourself these 3 questions:

- Does this need to be said?
- Does this need to be said by me?
- Does this need to be said by me now?

If you're thinking of making a thread for something that already has a thread, you really shouldn't. Even if that thread has fallen off the first page, odds are everything worth saying about it was already said. If you really think you have some important new insight, then go ahead and make the thread, but people are bound to disagree with you.

If you're thinking of making a thread to raise a question or otherwise help yourself or other members, that's nice, but make absolutely sure there isn't an existing thread that already answered the questions well enough. If a question can be answered by a simple forum search, it doesn't need a new thread.

If you're thinking of making a thread for something you care about but nobody else has heard of, don't. Seriously, don't.


Lastly, please try to appreciate the position the users you view as trolls are in. They've seen a lot of people post of lot of random crap, for all manner of misguided reasons, and they were all equally obnoxious. A lot of longtime users have pretty short fuses when it comes to this stuff. There will be days where you can't help but annoy some of them; try not to let it bug you, and defuse the situation if you can. If not, just walk away.


TL;DR version:
Lurk more. Post less.

This post has been edited by FourThirteen: Apr 15 2014, 04:50


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FourThirteen   A Beginner's Guide to Why Other Forum Users Hate You   Jan 30 2012, 09:00
radixius   FourThirteen, put your digital penis inside me.   Jan 30 2012, 09:11
Pseudoshy   I will still defend the idiots if I feel like it, ...   Jan 30 2012, 09:15
radixius   [quote name='Pseudoshy' post='1626715' date='Jan 3...   Jan 30 2012, 09:17
Pseudoshy   [quote name='radixius' post='1626716' date='Jan 29...   Jan 30 2012, 09:27
FourThirteen   [quote name='radixius' post='1626716' date='Jan 30...   Jan 30 2012, 09:29
cptkleenex   [quote name='FourThirteen' post='1626682' date='Ja...   Jan 30 2012, 09:17
radixius   Fair enough. But maybe they should pay more atten...   Jan 30 2012, 09:30
FourThirteen   [quote name='Pseudoshy' post='1626722' date='Jan 3...   Jan 30 2012, 09:32
cptkleenex   Pseudo, that's all well and good dude but ther...   Jan 30 2012, 09:32
Pseudoshy   [quote name='cptkleenex' post='1626731' date='Jan ...   Jan 30 2012, 09:38
radixius   Rob asked what the point of the thread was, perhap...   Jan 30 2012, 09:45
Pseudoshy   [quote name='radixius' post='1626753' date='Jan 29...   Jan 30 2012, 09:51
FourThirteen   The thing about lovehcomics is that he's been ...   Jan 30 2012, 09:48
radixius   I don't think there was anything that was even...   Jan 30 2012, 09:53
FourThirteen   If anything, that second post from Rob in that thr...   Jan 30 2012, 09:55
cptkleenex   Funny thing is, I believe I had the Pseudo positio...   Jan 30 2012, 10:04
radixius   [quote name='cptkleenex' post='1626797' date='Jan ...   Jan 30 2012, 17:37
FourThirteen   Frankly, I don't think I can see that. It...   Jan 30 2012, 10:07
cptkleenex   Just reference derpy's quote in your signature...   Jan 30 2012, 10:09
Robbie Pie   [quote name='FourThirteen' post='1626682' date='Ja...   Jan 30 2012, 18:15
radixius   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1627476' date='Jan ...   Jan 30 2012, 18:16
rainbowmagnum   [quote name='FourThirteen' post='1626725' date='Ja...   Jan 30 2012, 23:59
Robbie Pie   [quote name='rainbowmagnum' post='1627845' date='J...   Jan 31 2012, 00:15
radixius   The Aussies that post here, barring one, are all p...   Jan 31 2012, 00:31
rainbowmagnum   [quote name='radixius' post='1627878' date='Jan 31...   Jan 31 2012, 00:35
Tenseigamoon   HOLY FUCK, GO AND DIE NOW, THE ALL-IMPORTANT FORUM...   Jan 31 2012, 00:37
rainbowmagnum   [quote name='Tenseigamoon' post='1627888' date='Ja...   Jan 31 2012, 00:48
FourThirteen   Ignoring the threads would at best do nothing, and...   Jan 31 2012, 08:24
chivoef   Voted "Y u no haz avatar mr numbername?!?...   Jan 31 2012, 00:48
Lolicon_of_Sin   Spammy/stupid/noobish threads or threads in the wr...   Jan 31 2012, 01:03
BrainSucks   [quote name='rainbowmagnum' post='1627894' date='J...   Jan 31 2012, 01:35
radixius   [quote name='Lolicon_of_Sin' post='1627905' date='...   Jan 31 2012, 02:24
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='radixius' post='1627966' date='Jan 31...   Jan 31 2012, 04:06
Tenseigamoon   *gasp* But...but that's common sense. And foru...   Jan 31 2012, 01:17
Robbie Pie   [quote name='rainbowmagnum' post='1627886' date='J...   Jan 31 2012, 01:55
Benjiro   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1627932' date='Jan ...   Jan 31 2012, 02:19
Tenseigamoon   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1627932' date='Jan ...   Jan 31 2012, 04:29
radixius   Well, I mean, considering the hissy fit you threw ...   Jan 31 2012, 04:13
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='radixius' post='1628275' date='Jan 31...   Jan 31 2012, 04:26
radixius   [quote name='Lolicon_of_Sin' post='1628310' date='...   Jan 31 2012, 04:53
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='radixius' post='1628346' date='Jan 31...   Jan 31 2012, 05:09
radixius   [quote name='Lolicon_of_Sin' post='1628372' date='...   Jan 31 2012, 05:13
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='radixius' post='1628383' date='Jan 31...   Jan 31 2012, 05:18
Azraelgt   [quote name='radixius' post='1628346' date='Jan 30...   Jan 31 2012, 06:01
removesdust   I heard that Lolicon_of_Sin doesn't like boobs...   Jan 31 2012, 04:28
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='removesdust' post='1628312' date='Jan...   Jan 31 2012, 04:29
radixius   You sure are moving on, aren't you?   Jan 31 2012, 05:19
Lolicon_of_Sin   Evading the point, rad?   Jan 31 2012, 05:19
radixius   [quote name='Lolicon_of_Sin' post='1628396' date='...   Jan 31 2012, 05:27
bakabombdood   Hm, I'm still rather new to this forum/social ...   Jan 31 2012, 05:25
removesdust   Ponies have barely visible boobs, you should give ...   Jan 31 2012, 05:40
Lolicon_of_Sin   [quote name='removesdust' post='1628440' date='Jan...   Jan 31 2012, 18:23
BrainSucks   [quote name='bakabombdood' post='1628407' date='Ja...   Jan 31 2012, 20:45
FourThirteen   [quote name='BrainSucks' post='1629791' date='Jan ...   Feb 1 2012, 02:51
3dpd_lover   Ever since Gelbooru introduced avatars to its foru...   Jan 31 2012, 07:59
Robbie Pie   [quote name='Tenseigamoon' post='1628315' date='Ja...   Jan 31 2012, 11:49
Tenseigamoon   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1629104' date='Jan ...   Feb 1 2012, 04:57
Benjiro   bakaboomer´s post was cool,,, a taddle emotional,...   Jan 31 2012, 20:45
ektavice   [quote name='FourThirteen' post='1626682' date='Ja...   Feb 1 2012, 04:42
jackleeyeah   Thx for your kindly sharing...I will follow that.   Feb 1 2012, 05:38
Josh-kun   ive learned first hand that people dont like peopl...   Feb 1 2012, 05:50
kingwolf   [quote name='jackleeyeah' post='1630553' date='Jan...   Feb 1 2012, 06:09
Azraelgt   [quote name='kingwolf' post='1630614' date='Jan 31...   Feb 1 2012, 06:20
FourThirteen   Edit: Forget it; it doesn't need to be said.   Feb 1 2012, 07:08
Robbie Pie   [quote name='Josh-kun' post='1630582' date='J...   Feb 1 2012, 13:40
BrainSucks   [quote name='FourThirteen' post='1630061' date='Fe...   Feb 1 2012, 23:00
radixius   I did some scrounging and honestly, I don't th...   Feb 2 2012, 04:21
Tenseigamoon   Lol, Vigilante forum. That place is shit and has t...   Feb 2 2012, 04:46
Maximum_Joe   [quote name='Tenseigamoon' post='1632436' date='Fe...   Feb 2 2012, 07:53
chevelleinc1213   [quote name='Maximum_Joe' post='1632779' date='Feb...   Feb 2 2012, 07:55
Robbie Pie   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632774' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 08:07
chevelleinc1213   I was guilty of many of these things, got aggro,...   Feb 2 2012, 05:03
radixius   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632487' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 05:07
Terrabane   Let's be honest, if you come online and enter ...   Feb 2 2012, 05:20
Tenseigamoon   You know who I like best on the forum? The HV peop...   Feb 2 2012, 05:32
Terrabane   [quote name='Tenseigamoon' post='1632543' date='Fe...   Feb 2 2012, 05:43
Robbie Pie   I just like being a dick to people. It isn't a...   Feb 2 2012, 06:17
chevelleinc1213   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1632619' date='Feb ...   Feb 2 2012, 07:01
Robbie Pie   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632665' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 07:46
chevelleinc1213   [quote name='Robbie Pie' post='1632757' date='Feb ...   Feb 2 2012, 07:51
radixius   You are just diggin' your hole deeper, Dodge.   Feb 2 2012, 07:11
chevelleinc1213   [quote name='radixius' post='1632673' date='Feb 2 ...   Feb 2 2012, 07:46
radixius   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632750' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 07:48
removesdust   More like MENSES.   Feb 2 2012, 08:09
derpymal   People really should learn that IQs and MENSA don...   Feb 2 2012, 08:10
Robbie Pie   [quote name='derpymal' post='1632813' date='Feb 2 ...   Feb 2 2012, 08:15
chevelleinc1213   Laughing at you at the beginning of each of my sta...   Feb 2 2012, 08:15
removesdust   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632830' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 08:16
chevelleinc1213   So how do you gauge value in life? What level yo...   Feb 2 2012, 08:17
derpymal   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632835' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 08:23
kingwolf   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632835' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 08:24
chevelleinc1213   [quote name='kingwolf' post='1632853' date='Feb 2 ...   Feb 2 2012, 08:30
kingwolf   I'd like to thank the academy... oh, and my mo...   Feb 2 2012, 08:36
Robbie Pie   [quote name='chevelleinc1213' post='1632835' date=...   Feb 2 2012, 08:39
removesdust   [quote name='Robbie%20Pie' post='1632887' date='Fe...   Feb 2 2012, 08:51
chevelleinc1213   And how does that make you feel?   Feb 2 2012, 08:42
removesdust   Yeah? Well, this is me. http://i.lulzimg.com/13d7d...   Feb 2 2012, 08:46
chevelleinc1213   How did that come from Twistys.com if it's a p...   Feb 2 2012, 08:47
kingwolf   removesdust = master exploder? :huh:   Feb 2 2012, 08:51
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