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[Change] Lottery prizes, For people who play HV |
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Oct 24 2016, 21:20
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Tenboro
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One thing I often hear about the HV lottery prizes is that people are mostly in it for either the gear or the chaos tokens. Presumably, the golden ticket is also desirable since it improves the chance in future lotteries.
If the blood tokens and soul fragments are really considered trash tier, I'm considering just making the 3rd through 5th prize awards different amounts of chaos tokens, but I would like to know what the regulars think about this.
I would be open to other suggestions as well, but keep in mind that to avoid abuse, lottery prizes should generally not be tradeable.
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Nov 21 2016, 00:21
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2016, 18:07) and uh, just look at the names of winners. i'm quite positive many people don't even compete because they already know the result
Nono, someone get also the chance to whine because he wins the useless equipment and not the chaos tokens, even though he wins one lottery out of three This post has been edited by ppp82p: Nov 21 2016, 00:21
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Nov 21 2016, 01:14
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RoadShoe
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I haven't read this thread in weeks. Now I remember why. I've changed my mind on my comment of just "replace with Chaos and walk away". The same baron group wins every day anyway... No concerns with that. Their benefits on the site matches their support for the site. I've won a few myself to include peerless, and even chaos tokens. (low amount though) But if they get a booby prize, be it soul frags, or a peerless Leather, so be it. They're game rich. They generate more than enough in a day to overcome and even out.. They can try again tomorrow. And they usually do.
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Nov 22 2016, 04:40
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cmos
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Chaos tokens actually feel like somewhat a consolation prize when you spend a big amount of GP but fail to win some juicy equip, unlike most of the other prizes, so I support this idea. As for rich players winning them everyday and further buffing their already powerful army of monsters, most lotteries have crap grand prizes, attract few participants and thus award very few tokens so it can't be the main source of chaos tokens for many monsters anyway. And when there is a good prize and a lot of tokens, it's much harder to win something.
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Nov 22 2016, 10:36
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xmagus
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Here's a not-entirely-serious (but still serious) suggestion. Rather than spend so much time coding other stuff in, simply change the term 'lottery' to 'raffle' instead.
The problem with 'lottery' is that most people think of lotteries as having good (for varying values of 'good') prizes. In a raffle, that's not necessarily the case. If you wanted to keep the prizes, then calling it a raffle would change people's expectations. Semantics does matter, after all.
If you wanted to change the prizes, then make it more of a real lottery and give out in-game currency (Hath, for preference) instead. If you ensured that the total currency given out is always less than the largest amount of GP dumped in by any individual, it would still work as a money sink.
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Dec 6 2016, 07:14
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Zellmer
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When you only get a few hourlies worth of the fragments it feels like a punishment almost..
It's almost as if you where getting something like a bubble gum trophy..
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Jan 20 2017, 23:03
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hihohahi
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I don't play anymore but I still participate in everyday's lottery just for the chaos tokens.
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Feb 5 2017, 08:48
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The Original Zeo
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 25 2016, 01:14) Yeah, every time I play HV I always think the best way to improve the game is by having more fully chaosed monsters that take 2X the hit to die and make DW, Niten and 2H even less viable. No, I don't think that throwing chaos tokens at the problem solves anything. Trainers wanting chaos tokens are also the reason why a lot of first prices end up being unused. Definitely don't want more of that.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 25 2016, 02:01) ^ +1
QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 28 2016, 15:13) i would also like to give this ^100000+++++++
Eeyup.
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Feb 7 2017, 15:03
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Leader of Chaos
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I think that the blood tokens are pretty necessary for people like me who haven't even made it to level 200 yet. I am currently a level 177, and I've only received 2 blood tokens thus far. I need the tokens for the ring of blood. I would be ok with all the other prizes, but the main equipment and the blood tokens are what I really go for.
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Feb 8 2017, 01:15
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Piscolabis
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QUOTE(Leader of Chaos @ Feb 7 2017, 10:03) I think that the blood tokens are pretty necessary for people like me who haven't even made it to level 200 yet. I am currently a level 177, and I've only received 2 blood tokens thus far. I need the tokens for the ring of blood. I would be ok with all the other prizes, but the main equipment and the blood tokens are what I really go for.
Actually they arent. First of all, most low level people cant even afford to buy enough tickets to have a decent chance of getting those token. Also they arent cost-efficient to begin with, so its better to exchange that GP for credits if you are low level. I would remove soul fragments and blood token and make the third and fourth prizes energy drink and precursor artifact respectively. There is a huge inflation on those items and its slowly getting out of control as they keep rasing in price while everything else keeps going down. This post has been edited by Piscolabis: Feb 8 2017, 01:16
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Feb 8 2017, 02:12
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Maximum_Joe
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Lottery prizes have to be tokens or other soulbound goods. If artifacts are suffering from low supply just increase the drop rate or hold another holiday event.
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Apr 28 2017, 03:21
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foleyx90
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How do you enter?
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Apr 28 2017, 04:01
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Mrsuperhappy
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QUOTE(foleyx90 @ Apr 27 2017, 20:21) How do you enter?
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Jun 21 2017, 01:52
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Tenboro
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Thanks for the feedback. Changes have been finalized for HV 0.85.
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