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post Sep 15 2012, 11:29
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** For fetish tags, check the following guide. **

In this thread you can make requests for artist, circles (groups), parodies and characters to be moved into their respective namespace.
You can also request assignment of an alias to tags.

Please follow this format when requesting:
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Artists:
artist 1
artist 2
artist 3
artist 4
(...and so on)

Groups:
group 1
group 2
group 3
group 4
(...and so on)

Characters:
character 1
character 2
character 3
character 4
(...and so on)


For slave requests (one name being correct over another) do the following:
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Slave:
ArtistMaster > ArtistSlave
GroupMaster > GroupSlave
CharacterMaster > CharacterSlave


When requesting a tag alias:
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Alias:
ArtistPrimary > ArtistAlias
GroupPrimary > GroupAlias
CharacterPrimary > CharacterAlias


Always provide a source list whenever possible, like so:
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Sources:
artist 1: SourceLink
group 1: SourceLink 1
SourceLink 2
character 1: SourceLink
This is especially important on any master / slave switching requests.

The following sources are not deemed trustworthy:
- Anthologies table of content pages
- English DLsite
- DMM
- Google translate or other automated translation tools

We follow [en.wikipedia.org] Hepburn romanization.

If you get "No hits" in response to your request: That means the tag has not been added into misc. If you do not have the required 25 power to add the tag into misc, simply provide a link to the relevant gallery and resubmit your request.

Thanks for helping out!

This post was updated 2015-06, to better reflect what the thread is now used for.
This post was updated 2017-12, fixing some spelling mistakes.
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post Sep 15 2012, 16:02
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post Sep 15 2012, 16:06
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So it was not only me then tongue.gif


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post Sep 15 2012, 16:08
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Right. Now, then.
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post Sep 15 2012, 16:08
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Works. smile.gif

What is the ns group for? Circle/game company or for the translator team? unsure.gif

Also how does one add colliding tags "manually", for example colliding artist lunch with character lunch?

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post Sep 15 2012, 16:30
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QUOTE(binglo @ Sep 15 2012, 16:08) *
Also how does one add colliding tags "manually", for example colliding artist lunch with character lunch?


Unless one vastly outnumbers the other, I suggest just making new tags for both. There's no way to split an existing tag into two namespaces.

Oh, and DON'T put stuff in the language namespace that isn't a language.
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post Sep 15 2012, 16:55
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-moved

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post Sep 15 2012, 17:57
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"No ACL entry"

Also, where could we namespaces to be created? I might have missed the thread but I don't think so.
For instance "asuka langley soryu" would have to become "character:asuka langley soryu" but right now I get a:
"Could not vote for tag: The tag character:asuka langley soryu is in a restricted namespace and must first be defined by an administrator."

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post Sep 15 2012, 18:05
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QUOTE(wanna @ Sep 15 2012, 17:57) *

"No ACL entry"

Also, where could we ask for certain tags to be grouped?
For instance "asuka langley soryu" would have to become "character:asuka langley soryu" but right now I get a:
"Could not vote for tag: The tag character:asuka langley soryu is in a restricted namespace and must first be defined by an administrator."


I've ever so slowly started adding tags I come across. Please note that this is a gigantic project of moving over everything, so it will take couple of weeks... At the very least.
Hopefully the other tag moderators will chip in soon smile.gif

Bad tags in need of grouping should be reported as usual in the The Tag Grouping/Blacklist Discussion thread.

In short, just keep tagging as usual smile.gif

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post Sep 15 2012, 18:07
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QUOTE(binglo @ Sep 15 2012, 18:05) *

I've ever so slowly started adding tags I come across. Please note that this is a gigantic project of moving over everything, so it will take couple of weeks... At the very least.
Hopefully the other tag moderators will chip in soon smile.gif

Bad tags in need of grouping should be reported as usual in the The Tag Grouping/Blacklist Discussion thread.

In short, just keep tagging as usual smile.gif


Okay, so at least I know that a tagger like me won't be able to add any namespaces etc.


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post Sep 15 2012, 19:20
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QUOTE(wanna @ Sep 15 2012, 18:07) *

Okay, so at least I know that a tagger like me won't be able to add any namespaces etc.


Yet.

Well, you won't ever be able to add namespaces, but that goes for everyone who isn't me.
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post Sep 15 2012, 19:41
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So, there will be no uploader description anymore?

Ah, never mind. I just now find where it will be.

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post Sep 16 2012, 05:49
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The moment you've been waiting/dreading....

I am not entirely getting this tool. I get this much...

http://ehentaihip.com/tools.php?act=tagns&...chuuka%20mantou

It's a circle name so I select group as the namespace. Now the radio buttons: Do I select Default or leave it on No Default Namespace?

...and if it's one, when would I use the other choice?

Second, what's the average lag time between clicking Update and it actually happening?

Third, I am requesting a confirmation output after pushing the Update button. (I like feedback from button pushes) Something like...

CODE
Yay! You're done. Hopefully, you didn't fuck it up.


or

CODE
Happy Happy Pony Time!!!


or

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Namespace created.


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post Sep 16 2012, 05:57
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Sep 16 2012, 05:49) *

The moment you've been waiting/dreading....

I am not entirely getting this tool. I get this much...

http://ehentaihip.com/tools.php?act=tagns&...chuuka%20mantou

It's a circle name so I select group as the namespace. Now the radio buttons: Do I select Default or leave it on No Default Namespace?

...and if it's one, when would I use the other choice?

Second, what's the average lag time between clicking Update and it actually happening?

Third, I am requesting a confirmation output after pushing the Update button. (I like feedback from button pushes) Something like...

CODE
Yay! You're done. Hopefully, you didn't fuck it up.


or

CODE
Happy Happy Pony Time!!!


or

CODE
Namespace created.


Here is the famous lunch tag, notice it has two different namespaces assigned, artist and character. So depending on what you pick as default its what will be "auto corrected" when you use the tag. For example in this case tagging lunch will result in character:lunch.
If the thing your namespacing is lacking tag collision, just go with default on the new namespace, otherwise people needs to enter the namespace prefix to add get it to add properly. Picking "No Default Namespace" will just make the tag go into the "misc group".

The update seems instant, tho the galleries won't show it till you have voted up or down a tag (tho not sure if its only for me, I'm using Opera tongue.gif).

Seeing as we are starting a little wishing thingy; I would love to have the !BLACKLISTED! entry to get on top again, its ever so slowly getting pushed down by all the new namespaces. smile.gif

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post Sep 16 2012, 06:52
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QUOTE(binglo @ Sep 15 2012, 23:57) *

If the thing your namespacing is lacking tag collision, just go with default on the new namespace, otherwise people needs to enter the namespace prefix to add get it to add properly. Picking "No Default Namespace" will just make the tag go into the "misc group".


Well, then can Default be the default?

QUOTE(binglo @ Sep 15 2012, 23:57) *
The update seems instant, tho the galleries won't show it till you have voted up or down a tag (tho not sure if its on my side, I'm using Opera tongue.gif).


Ahh, that's way it didn't seem to work no matter how long I waited. I noticed something else: I opened a different chuuka mantou gallery and all the tags were clumped together in a misc namespace and when I voted the CM tag up the misc tag clump broke into three namespaces. It seems older galleries are not updating to the namespacing properly. (The tag cluster is in the correct page location.)

For example... When I opened this gallery the tags were....

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misc: slayers (177) chuuka mantou (172) yagami dai (117) lina inverse (112)mantou (35)ranma 12 (27)
spanking (6)anal (4)dismembered (4)asobiniikuyo (1)


After voting up a tag, it changed to...

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parody: ranma 12 (27)
group: chuuka mantou (172)
misc: slayers (177) yagami dai (117) lina inverse (112) mantou (35) spanking (6) anal (4) dismembered (4)
asobiniikuyo (1)


Note: I then moved slayers, yagami dai, and lina inverse into their namespaces, and then voted-down a slave tag, and it became...

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parody: slayers (219) ranma 12 (27)
character: lina inverse (112)
group: chuuka mantou (172)
artist: yagami dai (117)
misc: mantou (14) spanking (6) anal (4) dismembered (4) asobiniikuyo (1)


QUOTE(binglo @ Sep 15 2012, 23:57) *
Seeing as we are starting a little wishing thingy; I would love to have the !BLACKLISTED! entry to get on top again, its ever so slowly getting pushed down by all the new namespaces. smile.gif


This would be good. (This sub-reply was supposed for another request but, I forgot it. rolleyes.gif )


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post Sep 16 2012, 10:14
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Sep 16 2012, 05:49) *
It's a circle name so I select group as the namespace. Now the radio buttons: Do I select Default or leave it on No Default Namespace?


Default. And the reason it choose one automatically is that there could be several variant tags in different namespaces.

QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Sep 16 2012, 05:49) *
Second, what's the average lag time between clicking Update and it actually happening?


It's instant, but each gallery has tags as part of its cache, so it won't actually be visible until the cache is rebuilt. Which is generally done when you do anything to it. (Tag, rate, comment, etc...)

QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Sep 16 2012, 05:49) *
Third, I am requesting a confirmation output after pushing the Update button. (I like feedback from button pushes) Something like...


I'll add that.
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post Sep 16 2012, 13:50
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Group:
artist lunch under artist:lunch
artist raven under artist:raven
circle zi under group:zi

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post Sep 16 2012, 16:25
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Got a list that mostly needs some namespace lovin:

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Creator_Tags


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post Sep 16 2012, 16:57
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Sep 16 2012, 16:25) *

Got a list that mostly needs some namespace lovin:

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Creator_Tags

About the number names, I did "artist 123", just spelled it out as one two three, should this be the standard or is there maybe a chance namespaces can support only number tags?

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post Sep 16 2012, 17:40
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I hope we can do the latter.


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