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HentaiVerse Persistent 0.87 |
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Jan 20 2021, 16:46
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Tenboro
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This update was primarily focused on adding the new Isekai Mode. The part of the update that's applicable for Persistent is included below. Bulk ShriningAs you level up, Snowflake will now start accepting lower-tier trophies in bulk, effectively upgrading the trophy by a number of tiers. This will significantly speed up shrining large numbers of low-tier trophies. By default, the bulk upgrades are tied to your player level as such: Level 200: Tier 2 => Tier 3 at a rate of 4:1 Level 300: Tier 3 => Tier 4 at a rate of 2:1 Level 400: Tier 4 => Tier 5 at a rate of 4:1 The upgrades are cumulative, so at level 400+ you will upgrade Tier 2 to Tier 5 at a rate of 32:1 These tier upgrades are balanced so they are a slight buff with regards to getting higher-tier equipment. Upgrading trophies to T3, T4 and T5 also adds 10%, 20% and 30% bonuses respectively to the original trophy value for the cumulative trophy credit counter for the Follower of Snowflake perk, and together with the trophy/equipment value changes listed below, it should be roughly a wash with sell + FoS value. YMMV when it comes to salvage materials. To prevent the "need" to send trophies to accounts of higher or lower levels for any particular shrining outcome, there is a new toggle in the settings page that lets you override this trophy upgrading behavior. In other words, if you want, you can still shrine with no upgrades at level 500, or upgrade to tier 5 at level 1. (In case you were wondering, there are no actual "Tier 1" trophies in the system, this is a dummy tier used by some arena clear rewards.) Equipment Auto-Sell/Auto-SalvageA new Auto-Sell/Auto-Salvage function has been added. This will automatically turn unwanted equipment into credits or salvage materials whenever dropped in battle or received in the Shrine. You can enable this behavior with a new setting found on the Settings page. For each type of equipment, you can set it to either Sell or Salvage all drops up to a given quality (Average/Superior/etc). Unlike most settings, Auto-Sell/Salvage settings are shared across all profiles. If both Sell and Salvage is set, and a particular equipment qualifies for both, it will do the one with the lowest quality requirement. In other words, for a particular type of equipment, you can for example have it keep Magnificent and above, salvage Exquisite and Superior, and sell everything below that. Internally, the system will still fully generate the equipment piece up to the point where it would normally be added to your inventory, so the outcome will be exactly the same as if you sold or salvaged it manually. Note however that you cannot "buy back" an auto-salvaged or auto-sold equipment piece, as it is never actually added to the database. System/Misc- Salvaging equipment will now give either an upgrade material or scrap materials, never both. - Trophy value was rebalanced. (Monster-droppable T2 and T3 trophies are now worth more, while T4 and T5 are worth less.) - Equipment value was slightly rebalanced. The value factor for wear is now capped to 0.75, specifically to reduce the value of fully-repaired (shrine-fresh) gear. - Equipment will no longer grant base salvage when salvaged and re-bought multiple times. (It will still return upgrade materials.) - Equipment is now auto-locked when removed from a MoogleMail. - When shrining equipment with the Follower of Snowflake perk, instead of granting a Peerless equipment directly when you shrine an item, you will now receive the regular equipment plus a free Peerless Voucher (special-tier untradeable trophy item) which can be handed in for a guaranteed soulbound Peerless equip. This makes things more predictable for when the peerless is granted when shrining multiple items. It also removes the "need" to use a low-tier trophy for the peerless exchange to prevent it from being "wasted". - The Shrine will no longer tell you to hit spacebar to shrine more items if there are not enough items available to shrine again. Hitting spacebar in this case will just close the popup box. - Shrine Fortunes (the secondary trophy from the easter events) and Stocking Stuffers (the secondary winter gift trophy) are no longer tradeable. - The state lock and associated limiter has been improved, and will now hand out gradually increasing ban lengths for aggressive multithreaded requests that pile up database locks. (Let me know if you ever encounter a problem with this during normal play.) - Made the EXP readout when hovering the level a bit wider to prevent the number from cutting off at higher levels. - If MoogleMail CoD is set, it must now be at least 10 credits. 2021-06-14- A Persistent-only issue introduced in the previous update where you could rarely get an "extra" level-up leaving you with more than a level worth of exp to next level due to a lock being released prematurely should now be fixed.
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Jan 20 2021, 23:01
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,351
Joined: 14-September 12
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@Tenboro
Is there a possibility to add the tower also in Persistent mode, just as another battle mode (no awards)?
I don't intend to play in Isekai mode, but I would like to play the tower with my current equipment. In this case, the tower would work in a similar way, but if I managed to finish all the floors, it would automatically reset, and start all over again (without having to wait for the event to end in Isekai).
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Jan 20 2021, 23:07
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Juggernaut Santa
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(mewsf @ Jan 20 2021, 10:01) I think peerless and legendary should not be in the options for auto sell/salvage, no one would choose them, unless selected by mistake.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 20 2021, 10:24) I suppose that's a fair point, I'll consider removing them.
*me with Legendary Leather set to Auto-Sell* Huh? xD Just remove Peerless imho. Those are worth collecting and can be sold to collectors. Legendary Junk? Nah. If anything, we could have more setting. Like, I want to sell all Legendary Plate, but not Shielding. There's no option for that rn. An option would be, instead of multiple drop down menus, having a text box, like the list of hidden users in galleries, where we can set specific parameters like: "Legendary * Leather of * /sell Legendary Reinforced Leather of Deflection /keep Legendary * Plate * of * /sell Legendary Shielding Plate * of * /keep" etc... QUOTE(Maharid @ Jan 20 2021, 10:45) I hopet to at least see the Towr in Persistent, even if not with the bonus and reset of the Isekai.
QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 20 2021, 16:01) @Tenboro Is there a possibility to add the tower also in Persistent mode, just as another battle mode (no awards)?
I second this. Of course it still has to use stamina and give equipment drops, like a grindfest. And maybe it could still display ranking, just to give the player a measure of their current "strength". QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 20 2021, 16:01) but if I managed to finish all the floors, it would automatically reset, and start all over again
Afaik the Tower has no upper floor limit. It just goes up and up and up. This post has been edited by Juggernaut Santa: Jan 20 2021, 23:15
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Jan 21 2021, 00:00
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 14-September 12
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Jan 20 2021, 12:07) Afaik the Tower has no upper floor limit. It just goes up and up and up.
Eh? I was sure I had read somewhere that it was 100 floors. As I did not enter Isekai, I do not know what it is really like.
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Jan 21 2021, 00:27
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,649
Joined: 30-January 12
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 20 2021, 16:00) Eh? I was sure I had read somewhere that it was 100 floors. Nah, a few people have gotten confused about that, but the '100 floors' figure was just a guesstimate for what the rewards would be based around (ie, we'll say a 10% damage bonus would be 100 floors, but then rescale depending on how far people actually get).
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Jan 21 2021, 19:06
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 20 2021, 10:11) The shrine doesn't seem the throttle players holding space to shrine very fast in the default UI; is this safe? Oh, I forgot about this. I don't think there are any issues here as long as you're not multithreading requests, there isn't any artificial delay on anything outside of battle. If it's notably faster, it's probably due to the new servers.
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Jan 21 2021, 19:58
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 21 2021, 11:06) Oh, I forgot about this. I don't think there are any issues here as long as you're not multithreading requests, there isn't any artificial delay on anything outside of battle. If it's notably faster, it's probably due to the new servers.
Ah, the reason I asked is because it didn't appear to be waiting for responses before firing the next one (though I'll admit I didn't watch the network tab to see exactly how fast this is, just went by a quick glance at how fast my trophy stacks were depleting). The hvc js should only allow the space key to trigger a re-shrine once per message box popup, right? I had a poke through it but I couldn't find the exact part for binding the space key to anything (outside of battle). It's probably just the new server, yeah. Just wanted to be safe. This post has been edited by Nezu: Jan 21 2021, 19:59
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Jan 21 2021, 20:36
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 21 2021, 12:58) Ah, the reason I asked is because it didn't appear to be waiting for responses before firing the next one (though I'll admit I didn't watch the network tab to see exactly how fast this is, just went by a quick glance at how fast my trophy stacks were depleting). The hvc js should only allow the space key to trigger a re-shrine once per message box popup, right? I had a poke through it but I couldn't find the exact part for binding the space key to anything (outside of battle).
Yeah, no, I see what you mean. It probably used to before I changed it, but that should be fixed now.
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Jan 21 2021, 20:56
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 30-January 12
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 21 2021, 12:36) Yeah, no, I see what you mean. It probably used to before I changed it, but that should be fixed now.
Great work, thanks.
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Jan 23 2021, 06:36
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BlueWaterSplash
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Is there a bug in my equipment inventory with Persistent 0.87?
A few days ago I sold a bunch of my useless equipment to go from 763/1000 equipment slots down to around 400, and today I am back at 763/1000 equipment. I confirm that my garbage equipment is gone, but I don't feel that 763 tally is correct.
I could just try to count my inventory manually but that is too much bother.
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Jan 23 2021, 08:46
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 30-January 12
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 22 2021, 22:36) Is there a bug in my equipment inventory with Persistent 0.87?
I've heard another weird equipment slot count thing from someone else, so it's possible. Can we narrow it down by 1) ensuring it's definitely not script-related, and 2) replicating the problem and describe the process?
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Jan 23 2021, 15:18
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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2 possible bugs were reported in other threads: 1st: equip from lottery didn't get a correct equip ID at first ( also, it went to the wrong player): QUOTE(FullestDay @ Jan 23 2021, 04:40) Welp, so I decided to join in on the big dark mage staff on a whim (I don't even have a full set of dark mage cloth ATM), and well... EDIT: the item is being weird, though, I can equip it, but I can't link it, it comes up as https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267122913/undefinedDouble edit: Even weirder, it's back to normal once I upgraded it once. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267122913/804d1d7376And pressing/holding space may trigger temp ban: QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jan 23 2021, 07:32) originalToday I play Isekai while I'm using discord with live Audio. I set my discord Audio with "Hold a Key to speak", and choose the Space Key. When I speak and play HV in Isekai, I keep holding my Space Key to speak something. Then I was temporary blocked for 60 Sec. in Isekai. I don't know why, so I wait for 60 Sec. and keep speaking, then I was temporary blocked for another 120 Sec. Now I understand that the Problem is HOLDING SPACE KEY. But why? I just use Monsterbation and HV toolbox in Isekai, without any Keybind to my Space Key. Will I keep sending Information to Server, when I'm holding Space Key in a Battle?
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Jan 23 2021, 16:38
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 22 2021, 23:36) Is there a bug in my equipment inventory with Persistent 0.87?
A few days ago I sold a bunch of my useless equipment to go from 763/1000 equipment slots down to around 400, and today I am back at 763/1000 equipment. I confirm that my garbage equipment is gone, but I don't feel that 763 tally is correct. Equipment counts are cached, and it looks like it didn't refresh properly whenever you sold your stuff last; you're actually at 445 and the cached value is 763. As far as I can tell, the recounting is working, so it should refresh whenever you do anything that changes your equipment count. Try to buy or sell one equipment piece and see if it doesn't fix itself; let me know if it doesn't. QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 23 2021, 08:18) 2 possible bugs were reported in other threads: 1st: equip from lottery didn't get a correct equip ID at first And pressing/holding space may trigger temp ban:
The equipment key is derived from the numeric ID so it can't fail to generate. I think the problem here is when you win something from the lottery, it might not force a regeneration of the javascript that holds the display data for your equipment, but I'll look into that. (This would be an old bug if so.) The space key on shrine thing should be fixed already, but let me know if they were on something that wasn't the shrine page.
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Jan 23 2021, 20:04
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,649
Joined: 30-January 12
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 23 2021, 08:38) The equipment key is derived from the numeric ID so it can't fail to generate. I think the problem here is when you win something from the lottery, it might not force a regeneration of the javascript that holds the display data for your equipment, but I'll look into that. (This would be an old bug if so.)
Yes, we have in fact seen this exact bug before, though it usually resolves itself with a delay if I recall. QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 23 2021, 08:38) The space key on shrine thing should be fixed already, but let me know if they were on something that wasn't the shrine page.
As far as I understand, this happened on a battle page.
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Jan 23 2021, 20:15
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 23 2021, 13:04) As far as I understand, this happened on a battle page.
Hm. Well, assuming they were sitting on the "continue" screen, depending on the browser, I suppose it might cause it to repeatedly reload the page if you hold space there. I'll add a safety to prevent that.
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Jan 23 2021, 20:59
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 23 2021, 20:15) Hm. Well, assuming they were sitting on the "continue" screen, depending on the browser, I suppose it might cause it to repeatedly reload the page if you hold space there. I'll add a safety to prevent that.
No, I'm not. The Battle isn't finish, I just keep fighting with Hoveraction and my Rapier, while hold Space Key so speak in Discord.
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Jan 23 2021, 21:18
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jan 23 2021, 13:59) No, I'm not. The Battle isn't finish, I just keep fighting with Hoveraction and my Rapier, while hold Space Key so speak in Discord.
Well, spacebar *is* used by HV, so you want to not do that.
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Jan 23 2021, 21:23
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 23 2021, 21:18) Well, spacebar *is* used by HV, so you want to not do that.
Thank you, so it's not a Bug, I just change another Key for Discord.
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Jan 24 2021, 08:01
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sssss2
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 23 2021, 17:38) Equipment counts are cached, and it looks like it didn't refresh properly whenever you sold your stuff last; ... so it should refresh whenever you do anything that changes your equipment count. Try to buy or sell one equipment piece and see if it doesn't fix itself; let me know if it doesn't.
1. When I attach items to the mail, the number of equipment is not updated. QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 19 2021, 17:25) Any chance of a final pass for any of the UI-oriented tweaks before persistent 0.87? for example slot choices for shrining, or the requested IW potency system change (for isekai only)?
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 19 2021, 21:31) No time for this right now, so it's going live tomorrow during some maintenance I'll announce shortly.
2. Any chance of slot choices for shrining? 0.88 or a couple of years later? 3. I salvaged 4 Mag/Leg phases, and got 1 HGC and *1* Energy Cell each time. If it is not a bad luck but a bug, I guess the reason is that a maximum quantity of Energy Cells has changed from (the number of Scraps or 10) to (the number of x-Grade mats or 10).
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Jan 24 2021, 22:06
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kserox
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Woooot! It is alive ALIVE I SAY!
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Jan 25 2021, 01:07
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victorpofa
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I have noticed that low tier equipment value is noticably lower. I have seen in the past few weeks the first sub 100 credit equipment drop. Today I got a fair Katana worth only 101 credits.
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