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post Feb 10 2014, 07:52
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We have an "ask a question and seek help" threads for translators and scanners, but nothing for editors. This thread is aiming to correct this oversight. Have a question about editing that is not answered in our FAQs? Or perhaps you just want to show a page or two and ask for comments? Do it here. Enjoy,

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post Mar 4 2014, 14:46
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QUOTE(lightshader @ Mar 3 2014, 18:41) *

When using Photoshop, there are two key shortcuts that I use almost all the time when editing. It's:
*hold down spacebar to change to move tool (so I can quickly scroll around the page I'm working for any other editing tasks to do or quick QC)
* ctrl+= and ctrl+- to zoom in and out the image respectively (ctrl+0 is useful as well for quick scale to fit on screen)

Now, the question is, what are the equivalent for GIMP?

Holding middle click does the trick. smile.gif

*edited to correct my fail.*

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post Mar 4 2014, 16:59
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QUOTE(Ryukoreiakuma @ Mar 4 2014, 01:46) *

Holding shift and middle click does the trick. smile.gif

Do you need to hold the shift? I never noticed a difference.
Holding down the space bar also seems to work for scrolling the image, but there's a bug (in 2.8.0 at least) if you have just switched to a new tool and haven't used it yet.

You can also use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom or move the image:
ctrl scroll zooms in and out
shift scroll moves the image horizontally
scroll moves the image vertically

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post Mar 4 2014, 20:20
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QUOTE(jantch @ Mar 4 2014, 02:59) *

Do you need to hold the shift? I never noticed a difference.
Holding down the space bar also seems to work for scrolling the image, but there's a bug (in 2.8.0 at least) if you have just switched to a new tool and haven't used it yet.

You can also use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom or move the image:
ctrl scroll zooms in and out
shift scroll moves the image horizontally
scroll moves the image vertically

Wow... yea sorry about that. I was using blender before i posted that and middle click is needed there tongue.gif but yea no shift needed.
And I didn't know about the holding space bar scrolls. You learn something new every day XD
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post Mar 10 2014, 18:31
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If choosing between a scan to work with, which will you choose?

This one or this one?


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post Mar 11 2014, 06:28
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QUOTE(Ser Maggot @ Mar 10 2014, 03:31) *

If choosing between a scan to work with, which will you choose?

This one or this one?


Probably the larger one.


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post Mar 14 2014, 21:27
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I'd choose the 1200px one, which looks a bit less lossy in terms of JPG compression and might require less cleaning except maybe some scanning artefacts.

But the question I'd ask myself is : where do I want to lose a portion of the page : top or bottom ?

BTW, generally speaking I'd say 1600px is the best compromise between filesize and better resolution. While 1200px is the minimum it's still enough for a comfortable viewing, unless it's something to be appreciated in a larger resolution for many reasons (colored pages, beautiful art, lots of text in small size, needs to be printed or projected...). That's just my opinion.
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post Mar 16 2014, 14:53
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Hi everybody,

I have just completed a full edit of a manga one-shot I commissioned with N04h. Since it's my first time, it's not good, but I was wondering if someone experienced would be willing to take a look at it and maybe give me some pointers/ideas on what needs work. I've been looking at it so long I can't tell what's good and what's not.

The raw: http://ehentaihip.com/g/509169/f679ac9c09/

Just PM me. It's a divisive genre(NTR) so only if you're ok with it. Hopefully a fresh set of eyes can help me out here, anything is appreciated. I want to make it as good as I possibly can before uploading.

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post Mar 19 2014, 05:35
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Don't forget that nowadays lot of computers have high-res widescreen monitors.

1200px high would've been fine for 4:3 12" CRT monitor days with 800x600, or even the impressive (at the time) 1024x768 resolutions.

Now 22"-plus widescreen LCD monitors are all the rage, with HD resolution.

That's why I go with 2000px high as standard for anything I edit; I feel that it's a reasonable viewing size as you can see entirety of the first half page at once, scroll down once for the other bottom half before moving on to next page. No need for scrolling left or right, or even multiple scrolling down/up to view the entire page at 100%.


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post Apr 4 2014, 08:54
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I have to add something important that most novice editors doesn't seem to realize:

Please do NOT delete your source PSD/XCF files (or any image editing program file) of your editing projects until you have confirmed with your clients that they are satisfied with your work and that no further changes are necessary. Do not blindly assume that the first draft you send out will be the final version. If you delete (or lose) those files, you will have to re-do the editing work from scratch, or making changes to the first draft version images themselves. Latter is NOT ideal, because you're making changes to an already-compressed version, which invariably leads to gradual loss of image quality over multiple saves. JPEG format is notorious for this, and while PNG is a non-lossy format (which means it doesn't drop data in order to make file smaller), it does come with limited color palette as opposed to full color palette that source editing files have. Not to mention if you made a mistake in redrawing or typesetting, you would have to waste time re-doing over your original work. In short, you end up having to do twice as much work overall.

All those headaches could simply have been avoided if you had kept your sourece editing files in the first place.

In past few months I've had at least two bounty editors whom I had requested for revisions to their first draft only to find out that they already had deleted their source editing files. So I'm stuck with first draft versions that's going to need significant changes to the image itself JUST to make the desired changes.

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post Apr 4 2014, 10:43
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I'll just add that once compressed, PSD files don't take that much space but if you have a lot of them and don't want to keep them on your local drive, you can transfer on a private cloud space like mediafire, that's how I do it, personally.
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post Apr 5 2014, 03:13
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Can anybody help? I'm working on my own commission and I'm kinda experimenting with fonts. Here's a couple of pages. Please tell me if things look way too fancy or if I should simplify it. (Or if it downright sucks)

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post Apr 5 2014, 04:49
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the font you used for the bigger text, on pages 3 & 4, mostly because I don't like dotted I's in upper case... ^^'

More importantly, I find the small sound/breathing bubbles on the last page hardly readable. For these bubbles, I'd try reducing the interspace and increasing the font size (maybe apply a light deformation on the text layer to make it fit in the bubble if needed).

Other than this, it's a great job. wink.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:02
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@catdrag0n

Do you have a suggestion as to what font I can replace the bigger text with? I'll go for a horizontal alignment in the breathing bubbles and just apply a white outline.

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post Apr 5 2014, 12:05
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QUOTE(Ser Maggot @ Apr 4 2014, 21:02) *

@catdrag0n

Do you have a suggestion as to what font I can replace the bigger text with? I'll go for a horizontal alignment in the breathing bubbles and just apply a white outline.

Thank you!



Try Sonic Comics or, Fawn Script or Shonen Punk v2.

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post Apr 5 2014, 12:22
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@Super Shanko

Font choices look good! I'll probably end up using one of them.

Thanks!

Edit: Ended up using Shonen Punk v2

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post Apr 10 2014, 13:47
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How acceptable whiting out a transparent bubble is?

I tried redrawing it, but the added pattern makes it difficult.
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post Apr 10 2014, 14:05
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I always force myself to redraw the bubbles, but if it's insanely difficult then either....

1: Remove text neatly, lay down new font and apply stroke effect, and try redrawing around new font.

2: Just white out the whole inside of the bubble neatly fix any broken borders.


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post Apr 10 2014, 15:51
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QUOTE(Super Shanko @ Apr 10 2014, 13:05) *

I always force myself to redraw the bubbles, but if it's insanely difficult then either....

1: Remove text neatly, lay down new font and apply stroke effect, and try redrawing around new font.

2: Just white out the whole inside of the bubble neatly fix any broken borders.
Thanks, man! I actually forgot that this 100-pages mammoth has color pages too, so I'm totally taking option number 2.
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post Apr 19 2014, 21:53
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am wondering how to do this

this i what i did , dont know how to go forward
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post Apr 19 2014, 23:44
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Looks fine to me.


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