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post Apr 19 2011, 11:52
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Often enough I run into situations when I am not sure which gallery to keep. Posting them in the reup vigi thead sometimes helps, but often my posts seem to be ignored, as they fall behind the current vigi "expunge this" steamroller posts. And I've seen this happen to others.

This is the place to post the "not sure" cases, so they can get more visibility.

Here's my most recent one:

http://ehentaihip.com/g/6411/88fe54ba3c/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/17873/8ae33a5bbc/ (reup)

Org has bigger filesize but lower res then reup. Which to keep, or both?

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post Apr 19 2011, 18:37
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Reup is resized imo, definitely more blurry.
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post Apr 20 2011, 10:50
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Here's some backlog of stuff I posted in the vigi that got ignored

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http://ehentaihip.com/g/6411/88fe54ba3c/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/17873/8ae33a5bbc/ (reup)

Org has bigger filesize but lower res then reup. Which to keep, or both?

2
http://ehentaihip.com/g/143070/1bded2af1c/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/204636/38a072b7ac/ (reup)

reup claims to be hq but org has higher filesize and res (doggie)

both are complete (page diffs are blanks and bindings)

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http://ehentaihip.com/g/15239/07f9695b79/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/230404/65321c4737/ (reup)

not sure which scan is better

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http://ehentaihip.com/g/264496/4388920c59/ (org - 1977 images)

reups:

http://ehentaihip.com/g/265138/fdf83baf7a/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/265140/a28b386ed4/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/265151/380cebe6f9/

reups, totalled, have something like 2,500 images

a bit of a mess...

all stay?

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http://ehentaihip.com/g/289524/75f8447fd8/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/205831/27f1cd2bd7/



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post Apr 20 2011, 15:56
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 20 2011, 04:50) *
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http://ehentaihip.com/g/143070/1bded2af1c/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/204636/38a072b7ac/ (reup)

reup claims to be hq but org has higher filesize and res (doggie)

both are complete (page diffs are blanks and bindings)
Re-up is hq imo. The bytes in the original are largely wasted on bluriness and scan artifacts like shadowing of page edges. The reup is clean and sharp.
QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 20 2011, 04:50) *
Reup looks cleaner to me, and it doesn't waste screen space beyond page edges.
QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 20 2011, 04:50) *
No idea, to seriously compare all should be downloaded, same images identified, compared as to quality and disregarded is same, differences between the first gallery and the three last ones examined. Too much work for me.
QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 20 2011, 04:50) *
Same, too much work. I wish there was a tool to automate comparison of galleries at least roughly.
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post Apr 24 2011, 01:23
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http://ehentaihip.com/g/22009/ea0659334b/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/204310/b6e26ecc05/ (reup)

As per gallery description, reup has several more pages, and some are colored. But - it is a different edition / fan colorizing, or was the org an incomplete b&w scan?


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post Apr 24 2011, 06:27
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 23 2011, 19:23) *

http://ehentaihip.com/g/22009/ea0659334b/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/204310/b6e26ecc05/ (reup)

As per gallery description, reup has several more pages, and some are colored. But - it is a different edition / fan colorizing, or was the org an incomplete b&w scan?


All of the color pages are riddled with advertisements; they were probably taken from the artist's website.
And the "several more pages" aren't really required, from what I can see. Two near the beginning and two all the way at the end aren't required at all. Then for some of the "title pages", he included both the color version and the black/white version for some reason. I think the original is closer to, well, the original.

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I also have one, if it's okay to post it:

http://ehentaihip.com/g/358741/c4fd0593ae/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/358753/ef10253ef5/ (reup)

Should the original really be replaced just because the files aren't ordered neatly? Once the .zip of the original is downloaded and extracted, everything goes into the correct order anyway. Not to mention that the original also has all of the original file names.


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post Apr 24 2011, 14:29
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Apr 23 2011, 18:27) *

I also have one, if it's okay to post it:

http://ehentaihip.com/g/358741/c4fd0593ae/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/358753/ef10253ef5/ (reup)

Should the original really be replaced just because the files aren't ordered neatly? Once the .zip of the original is downloaded and extracted, everything goes into the correct order anyway. Not to mention that the original also has all of the original file names.


Correct order and added cover - both of whcih the reup seems to fix - are grounds for replacement, yes.


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post Apr 24 2011, 18:29
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Apr 24 2011, 00:27) *
All of the color pages are riddled with advertisements; they were probably taken from the artist's website.
They were probably taken from http://ehentaihip.com/g/20732/a35ad8bc8e/ which is the magazine edition of the first story.
QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Apr 24 2011, 00:27) *
And the "several more pages" aren't really required, from what I can see. Two near the beginning and two all the way at the end aren't required at all. Then for some of the "title pages", he included both the color version and the black/white version for some reason. I think the original is closer to, well, the original.
Agree, I'd expunge the re-up, as it's very likely to be a compilation of magazine pages and tankoubon. If it only added the two pages at the end, it wouldn't be a compilation, but those are non-story pages and I'm not 100% sure it would be enough to replace even then. It would be for me, without the magazine color pages, but I think the majority of voters might disagree.
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They were probably taken from http://ehentaihip.com/g/20732/a35ad8bc8e/ which is the magazine edition of the first story.
Agree, I'd expunge the re-up, as it's very likely to be a compilation of magazine pages and tankoubon. If it only added the two pages at the end, it wouldn't be a compilation, but those are non-story pages and I'm not 100% sure it would be enough to replace even then. It would be for me, without the magazine color pages, but I think the majority of voters might disagree.


I'd agree if you can point me to the galleries containing all 11 color pages; the one you linked has only the first 4.


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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 26 2011, 20:19) *
I'd agree if you can point me to the galleries containing all 11 color pages; the one you linked has only the first 4.
Even if they're not posted (I cba to spend time checking), your gallery would still be a compilation of magazine and tankoubon.
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QUOTE(Dlaglacz @ Apr 26 2011, 16:12) *

Even if they're not posted (I cba to spend time checking), your gallery would still be a compilation of magazine and tankoubon.


So we are just letting the (official) color pages go to waste?

I support killing compilations, but only if content has been properly expunged.

You know, I found something like a dozen dojins or so, in total, just looking at galleries expunged as compilations few months back - because people expunging them didn't care that sometimes they contained the only uploaded copies of a certain dojin.

Am I the only one who sees a problem here?


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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Apr 27 2011, 00:11) *
So we are just letting the (official) color pages go to waste?
They're not deleted, you know, just not available in default search.
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Both are converted from BMP-->JPG
http://ehentaihip.com/g/360127/242ad0c157/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/360125/3ae25114b8/

I'm not good at comparing image's quality sad.gif and it's my gallery too. I think I'm not in the right position to decide it.


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unless this is some weird scan vs digital case, I think http://ehentaihip.com/g/34985/c9e10bef17/ should be replaced by http://ehentaihip.com/g/161574/b3a9128a42/ (which also needs to be reordered, I PMed XMike about that)

Thoughts?


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QUOTE(shizukuxii @ Apr 27 2011, 16:14) *

Both are converted from BMP-->JPG
http://ehentaihip.com/g/360127/242ad0c157/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/360125/3ae25114b8/

I'm not good at comparing image's quality sad.gif and it's my gallery too. I think I'm not in the right position to decide it.

I know it's too late, but if you want to do something about it after the fact...

Here's an animated PNG @320KB (sorry IE users, no love for you since GIF is too lossy for an image quality comparison).
It is from the upper right corners of image 11 for GE and image 28 for shiz:



His has clearly less artifacts (probably saved at max JPG quality) compared to yours, so his technically should have replaced yours, but everyone decided to go the other way, probably out of compulsion.

QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 9 2011, 17:48) *

unless this is some weird scan vs digital case, I think http://ehentaihip.com/g/34985/c9e10bef17/ should be replaced by http://ehentaihip.com/g/161574/b3a9128a42/ (which also needs to be reordered, I PMed XMike about that)

Thoughts?

xMike's copy is suspiciously clean and text is razor sharp. Also when I archive it in LHZ or RAR the filesizes to the digital version ( [maniax.dlsite.com] http://maniax.dlsite.com/work/=/product_id/RJ013167.html ) are nearly identical (give or take 1KB) when you remove the dlsite cover that was added to the gallery. First impressions to me is xMike's copy is the digital version. That and ~700-750 pixels tall is short for a scan even by 2008 standards, so to me that puts into question what the origin of thetriman's copy.

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I am tired...

http://ehentaihip.com/g/156889/bc3c9311f9/
http://ehentaihip.com/g/161286/8ba35ff89b/


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Tags significantly changed: filming (def, use), large tattoo (def, use), exhibitionism

Interesting tag proposals/revisions under discussion (please consider commenting): anon, below knee boots, calendar, clueless (aka naive), couple (two people having sex), eye-covering bang, hat, helmet, husband and wife (aka married couple, spouse), phone/camera scan, under knee high boots / below knee boots, watching

Tags I am thinking about proposing (be scared / PM me with comments/examples): butt plug, covered in cum, halo, high heels, metal bikini, mentally retarded, miniskirt, ribbon headband, samurai, self-sucking, socks, flora/vegetable insertion (please post examples here), veil

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post May 15 2011, 15:08
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Replace the first one, as it has low JPEG quality, lots of compression artifacts.
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post May 18 2011, 01:03
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not 100% sure but leaning to replace

http://ehentaihip.com/g/13075/d13e92ec0d/ (org)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/351067/5aec6901e0/ (improved edit, same translation, hq scans)

I know we keep different translations, but this is the same one, just better edit and better scans

here's another interesting case to consider

http://ehentaihip.com/g/335629/2e6c5a79ef/ (org terrible Engrish)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/365244/3b5d474de8/ (recent v2, the editor admitted on our forums he cannot read Japanese but simply improved the prose to make the org readable)

again, I'd lean towards replace


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post May 19 2011, 03:41
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 17 2011, 13:03) *

here's another interesting case to consider

http://ehentaihip.com/g/335629/2e6c5a79ef/ (org terrible Engrish)
http://ehentaihip.com/g/365244/3b5d474de8/ (recent v2, the editor admitted on our forums he cannot read Japanese but simply improved the prose to make the org readable)

again, I'd lean towards replace

As would I. The quality of a Doujinshi's text is just as important as its art. Version 2's translation is higher quality and looks more natural. The first one just looks hurried and sloppy, like the translator was in a rush to get it posted first.


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post May 22 2011, 04:07
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New; http://ehentaihip.com/g/368881/e0fc7bdd5b/
Old: http://ehentaihip.com/g/61467/d7b5065060/

Newer one has much bigger file sizes but the quality seems about the same to me.


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