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This post has been edited by PrincessKaguya: Mar 21 2021, 23:37

There should be automatic tagging...maybe natural language processing or some substring algorithms (many exist)

Most tags are visual, even if (and that's a huge "even if") a natural language processing would be possible it would be useless to recognise if a girl's butt is big enough to warrant f:big ass.

(late) EDIT: typo

This post has been edited by blue penguin: Jan 18 2015, 01:09

There should be automatic tagging...maybe natural language processing or some substring algorithms (many exist)

I second this suggestion. There is the minor problem that you'd need three years and millions of dollars to develop the appropriate software, and the fact that it would need continuous updating as the tagging system is improved, though.

But I think that's a small price to pay for what will likely be worse tagging.

it would be useless to recognise is a girl butt is big enough to warrant f:big ass.

Hell, most people are bad with that tag.

I propose that the definition of shotacon and lolicon should be rephrased to make clear that the "Only appearance should be taken into account when tagging this."-part is solely referring to age.

This post has been edited by peterson123: Jan 20 2015, 02:29

I propose that the definition of shotacon and lolicon should be rephrased to make clear that the "Only appearance should be taken into account when tagging this."-part is solely referring to age.

I propose that fine-tuning the definition wouldn't do any good when the mistagging comes from people who aren't reading tag definitions in the first place.

For the last time Red_Piotrus use the right thread.

(Unsure if this one should pollute the brand new tag discussion thread as it is a mix of discussion and re-slaving. Apologies if it's in the wrong place.)

A few old, minor derps for slaved tags - the major ones would take way too long to fix - given in the slave->master format.

male:bdsm
female:domination -> female:femdom (self-explanatory and fixes issue with guys only/yaoi)

female:bdsm
male:domination = issue with girls only/yuri

female:dog
female:knot, female:knotting = issue if the dog is male and banging a female (if it's banging a male, problem exists between keyboard and chair)

misc:incest
imouto -> female:sister (mostly for girls only and yuri galleries)
oniisan = not necessarily incest (male:dilf depending on age); can also be male:incest or male:brother (for guys only and yaoi galleries)
(sibling, step sibling, etc. aren't a problem since inseki requires incest)

There are lots of others in there, but I'd like to know if moving them is worth it or might as well forget about it.

I propose that fine-tuning the definition wouldn't do any good when the mistagging comes from people who aren't reading tag definitions in the first place.

The reason I brought it up was that the current wording implies that galleries like these get the lolicon tag.

For the last time Red_Piotrus use the right thread.

May I suggest a wording chance, from " Anything related to the grouping or namespacing of tags should be posted in this thread. " to " Anything related to the grouping or namespacing of tags should be posted in the "Tagging and its abuse." thread." My eyesight is not best, and I missed the fact that "this thread" was underlinked. And English-wise, this thread means, well, this thread.

Thanks for the feedback, I've made some changes to better underline I'm speaking of another thread.

Just so you don't remake your mistake, the thread I'm talking about is Using the tag namespace tool, not "Tagging and its abuse"-thread.

The reason I brought it up was that the current wording implies that galleries like these get the lolicon tag.

I realize that the loli tag note says "only appearance should be taken into account..." but the description, right above that, starts with "underage girls". It really doesn't imply trap boys should be tagged as lolicon. That's not a feasible interpretation.

trap = crossdressing, shota, gay

That's not a feasible interpretation.

That is indeed correct. Shotacon is the the tag for males.

aint a boy/male in some girl/female dress still a male

you dont become a girl just because u have a wig and use high heels

Well, it just feels wrong to me to have "It doesn't matter how old s/he is, only looks matter." without having "It doesn't matter what gender s/he is, only looks matter." when the wiki clearly says that only appearance matters. Or (to refer to aspct's example); yes, the description says "underage girls", but they don't have to be underage, they just have to look like it. So why would they actually have to be girls instead of only looking like it?
That could easily be fixed by saying something like "Only apparant age should be taken into account when tagging this. "

This post has been edited by peterson123: Jan 22 2015, 02:22

"Only apparant age should be taken into account when tagging this. "

That's even worse.

Only apparent age should be taken into account when tagging this

I thought this was already the case for the lolicon and shotacon tag.

Underage girls in sexual situations

+

Only appearance should be taken into account

=

apparent age

The wiki has a lot of broken tags but some of them do work and this one (as well as shotacon) is a legal definition, as most people know by now. What's wrong here? Too complicated to the casual reader?

Damn, Joe ninja'd me.

That's even worse.

Thanks for the feedback Joe, I'm open for improvement.

The wiki has a lot of broken tags but some of them do work and this one (as well as shotacon) is a legal definition, as most people know by now. What's wrong here?

My intention is to clarify that the "appearance" is only referring to age and to nothing else (like gender).
To help understanding, I stumbled upon it when I saw this post, thinking that by current wiki definition it wouldn't be wrong to tag that gallery with lolicon.